The whole anime industry and its vocational schools are built on Loomis.
There's a pic floating around in this board of a Japanese manga artist on Youtube saying that every Jap have Loomis and Jack Hamm books.
Fujimoto's look back one shot have a panel with drawing books, and you can see Loomis in it.
There's plenty of anime animators that rec Loomis like here:
>http://listeningside.net/a_side15.html
and here:
>http://animatorweb.jp/book.html
It's so obvious now that the reason why Japs are so much better than us westoids is because they learn from Loomis while we learn from everyone else but Loomis.
Let me repeat in case you forgot:
>ALL YOU NEED IS LOOMIS
Delete those terabytes of video courses and drawing books, just read Loomis and good luck.
>ALL YOU NEED IS LOOMIS
Someone should make a Loomis version of picrel.
loomis aint going to teach you how to paint.
Literally, LITERALLY, every single anime tutorial rips off FWAP
Link?
>Blackpilled animator
Drawing for fun naggers BTFO just grind boxes and you will make it.
>Just suffer and worry as you acquire your skills
BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED
"studying drawing doesn't have to be fun" =/= "studying drawing isn't fun"
I don't like reading books so is there a video course that go thru the Loomeme method?
Drawing is a pain in the ass and only autistic fucks like you enjoy it.
>Anime Loomis
You're the best anon!
Don't post this in /asg/
why do you say that? That's where I found it.
Is Proko good for Loomis? I don't like animu.
I don't really understand the question, especially in this thread, but Proko is basically just simplified Loomis.
Marzulo has a video course focused Loomis head
these suck lol
The art style sucks ass but the theory of how to draw Loomis heads is what matters. Proko is better tho.
It's not the art style bro
Fair enough, learn from Proko then. He's got a portrait drawing course.
this is only for the privileged 0.001% of the population that can grind for years while being fucked from behind constantly, the rest of us find joy in drawing, or are being fueled by specific mechanisms like envy (my personal case)
>Don't worry, just suffer and worry
aye aye capn
>The whole anime industry and its vocational schools are built on Loomis.
Anon, jap artists literally copy each other to learn how to draw. Osamu Tezuka mentioned that drawing manga is basically a free-for-all. All you need to do to learn how to draw manga is just copy other manga/artwork by whatever means necessary and using whatever technique you like, no Loomis required.
They only teach Loomis at school because they need to teach *something*, and since the Loomis books are already popular everywhere they're easy sources of information to regurgitate to idiots who don't know any better.
Your picrel is from a parody of how to draw books not a real one.
>"A statement appeared in a parody, therefore it must be a lie."
lmao
Anon you should give us a list of manga artists that learned to draw by copying manga instead of that how to draw meme book.
>samu Tezuka mentioned that drawing manga is basically a free-for-all
I read somewhere that Tezuka learned to draw by copying Disney movies over and over again, specially Bambi.
been thinking that doing rough copies of keys in anime would probably give massive gains.
Literally the old-school method of learning animation.
Go to animator dormitory youtube channel and watch the video where the host interview 3 pro anime animators. One of the gals say that the she learned to draw by copying anime frame by frame. The glasses gal copied Loomis book.
>THIS
"privileged" my ass just grind those boxes.
>doing rough copies of keys in anime would probably give massive gains
Guzzu said in an interview that he did this and he improved a lot.
NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T COPY ANIME!!!!! YOU'RE A FUCKING AMAWU AAAAAAAHHHHHHH MIKUTRANNY SAVE ME
My heavenly /ic/igga just the settei
What about action and movement. Character design seems somewhat limited except for head poses
Ironically, anime doesn't need much "pose" or "action" design. That's a western animation thing, because western designs have become so abstract that movement, and how that movement changes the masses, are not intuitive.
Anime largely use realistically jointed figures, so the full range of human motion is available to them. They don't need to design them beforehand, they just use whatever pose is appropriate. It taps into a collectively shared, intuitive understanding of action, which doesn't need design.
This anon is correct. You only find action poses on western model sheets, in Japan the character designer don't bother with this because the animators do their own thing specially in Sakuga scenes.
this is the worst advice ive ever read, im just going to ignore it and copy animation frames.
you seem legitimately retarded and that you suck asian dick regularly.
Tezuka-sensei, the godfather of the furry fandom
The world is so much in his debt
>Anon, jap artists literally copy each other to learn how to draw.
yeah shitty ones like pic rel
>You will understand eventually (several years to a decade later)
Holy confirmation bias...is japanimation is a cult?
Yes but not just animators or artists in general.
yep
>all you need is loomis, also, art school, mentors, masters, draw 12 hours a day everyday for a decade and you will eventually get it
>art school
Most anime animators are either self-taught and/or they learn on the job. Anime vocational schools are a scam and most Japs know it.
There's still a few that go to vocational schools but they're a minority. I read that one multiple blogs by Japanese animators but if you don't believe me just google it in Japanese and you'll find plenty of examples.
>Most anime animators are either self-taught and/or they learn on the job. Anime vocational schools are a scam and most Japs know it.
cope
japs who want to pursue art are constantly surrounded by an art culture that pushes for their improvement whether it be at specific schools, high school clubs, or even just someone they know
most american art schools sucks, you're lucky to meet anyone who can draw well in your formative years, much less someone who is doing what you want to do, and the entire art culture in the west is anti-improvement
but yeah, you're gonna have an easy time becoming that anime illustrator by reading loomis books in your closest. im sure those discord friends are enough
Anons use Loomis in picrel.
i don't get it. it's from the recent Dungeon Meshi. is the picture good or is it fucked up? it looks subtly fucked up.
t. drawlet
Not that anon, but that pic is simply in the wrong aspect ratio.
yeah, and look how the anime industry is going on there
also, not in this age does this will even be relevant
can confirm big perspective gains by just doing fdfaw chapter one and copying some of the initial plates from drawing heads. feels great, /int/ here i come.
>forced to buy Loomis' "Easy Figure Drawing" FIRST
Seems to me that there are other recommended books, such as the aforementioned Hmm books.
Not to discredit Loomis of course, I think his books are among the best out there for drawing.
Loomis, Jack Hamm, Morpho and Uldis are all widely used in the anime industry.
morpho is blowing up in Japan frfr
i see xeets daily from Nip artists and animators there doing studies from it and illustrators like Neg on yt reccing it etc etc
they're, fuck you autocorrect I won't let anyone call me esl (even tho I am)
That's cool to know thanks anon. I heard of Morpho on a Q&A from a veteran animator saying to copy his anatomy book twice before you apply for an anime job. For some reason I feel that Toshi anime books are inspired by Morpho.
is that the big anatomy book or simplified forms
successful drawing is the most important book and everyone ignores it
More important than creative illustration and human figure by all its worth?
is the book easy y figure drawing here referring to Figure drawing for all its worth ?
also what do you guys think of this video companion series where he draws along with the book ?
Great alternative to reading his book but you have to copy the book to improve so you should have a pdf copy for that.
Yes sometimes it's translated as easy portrait like picrel but it's not the head and hands one nor successful drawing.
forgot link
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLG96VXAcX7tOD79VvsnxwI9Q9QQsQP6CX
such a worthless series. He ignores every single page that says "DRAW THESE FROM IMAGINATION" and does a bad copy instead.
does no one on yt consume art books correctly?
>It's so obvious now that the reason why Japs are so much better than us westoids is because they learn from Loomis while we learn from everyone else but Loomis.
The picture you posted sounds like a lot of japs are shit, but they've standardized the figure around Loomis so they could whip the shitty artists into doing one thing competently. They chose Loomis probably not for any particular reason other than that's what they had years ago when the industry started.
I guess I'll go do fwap then
loomis is the best.
easiest to learn. improves your skills. faster results. can easily be adjusted for any style from realism to cartoons.
For a complete beg that never drawn before and want to use drawing tablet should I start with FWAP or it's okay to start with head and figure books? Should I read the text or can I focus only in copying the drawings? There's any courses using the loomis method?
Start with picrel. Read the text, understand the theory then go back to page 1 and copy the whole book twice.
Nothing written by Loomis is accessible to beginners.
How does Loomis actually start his drawing? Gesture? Contours informed by basic forms.
Loomis doesnt work, it is a beg trap made to sell books and classes. Ive never seen a pro using it, proko doesnt use it, animators dont use it, mangaka doesnt use it. Literally only begtards and their cursed drawings use it
in-depth construction is proportion/3d view training wheels
the pros might not use it now, but they DEFINITELY used it in the past to learn
let's see proko use the loo-
Ok maybe something else, maybe an anime face uses the lo-
Ok maybe not togashi but surely murata uses the lo-
The famous case of the most used drawing method that is not used by a single person
>learn Loomis
>indicates that you'll work professionally for years before you actually understand it
Sounds like he's referring to it as a way to refine what drawing skills you acquire through the ether over years and not as a meaningful initial learning tool.
Honestly one of the best teaching tools is accepting projects beyond what you perceive to be your ability. Only turn down commissions if the buyer seems unreasonable or something, but never turn down a project because you think it is too hard or the results will be poor, just force yourself to do it as best you can
Figure Drawing for All It's Worth is very barebones. I don't know how it can be all you need.
Who tf is morpho