I use hamburger model: >First give the positive comments >Then the negative critique >End it with positive feedback and encouragement to keep drawing
That way the artists can trust you can see the good and potential in their art, the negative critique doesn't come off as hostile and instead the artist understand the bad things are pointed out for them to improve on and it all ends with a positive note.
Or you know trust your instincts. Artists are generally weak minded and never experienced tough love. That's why they can't go for high salaried careers because they can't take just a little bit of critiscism from others and most importantly themselves.
If you want your critique to have effect, it's good to know the effective way to give it. You can have the best critique ever but if you fail to deliver it in a way that makes artist learn from it, it's worthless
Considering that the urge to Make Stuff is rare at best,I try not to discourage people with their earnest but inept attempts. My first thought when confronted with something like the pic posted is Who would pay Money for This? In other words, what of the many varied markets would this be appropriate for, or at least what the budding artist should consider applying forethought to their future work with this goal in mind. And my choice for this picture? Greeting cards. Peruse the stock next time you are food shopping, and note the vast variety of styles and composition, and I can see this stylized cartoon for adolescents ("Da Bois Hoid Birthdaze Was DOWN Wid Diz!"). Or similar. When the target market is Befuddled Middle Aged Suburbian Housewife,you won't get far with Rembrandt.
Atm I am thinking of a new TShirt design, and I tried going for Ultra Cartoony,and at least in this rough I lack that knack. I remember seeing a tshirt from the late 70s that had some Robert Crumb-esque big nosed guy in a trenchcoat with the words sandwiching the image :"Do Unto Others,then SPLIT!". Squat,disreputable, cool,hip,amusing,amused,easily understood by the broadest demographics of potential customers, and I will try many times to get all these design elements incorporated into the Final Product.
kinda ironic that the guy who did that meme drawing was a permabeg for decades despite trying hard everyday (I know because we're friends on facebook) and now he starting to transition to a music endeavor instead
i send them some resources
like "hey have you read x book?" or "you should checkout this youtuber, he helped me figure out some stuff"
low begs normally have stayed in their bubble and haven't really studied
for higher begs i'll just tell them whats wrong with their iamge
>niiiiiiggggggeeeeeerrrrrrr
I use hamburger model:
>First give the positive comments
>Then the negative critique
>End it with positive feedback and encouragement to keep drawing
That way the artists can trust you can see the good and potential in their art, the negative critique doesn't come off as hostile and instead the artist understand the bad things are pointed out for them to improve on and it all ends with a positive note.
Or you know trust your instincts. Artists are generally weak minded and never experienced tough love. That's why they can't go for high salaried careers because they can't take just a little bit of critiscism from others and most importantly themselves.
If you want your critique to have effect, it's good to know the effective way to give it. You can have the best critique ever but if you fail to deliver it in a way that makes artist learn from it, it's worthless
At this point "tough love" is just the term shitposters use to justify deriding begs.
You don't love, don't pretend otherwise.
Eh there's truth to both of that
What are you talking about? The best artists are constantly critiquing their own work.
Considering that the urge to Make Stuff is rare at best,I try not to discourage people with their earnest but inept attempts. My first thought when confronted with something like the pic posted is Who would pay Money for This? In other words, what of the many varied markets would this be appropriate for, or at least what the budding artist should consider applying forethought to their future work with this goal in mind. And my choice for this picture? Greeting cards. Peruse the stock next time you are food shopping, and note the vast variety of styles and composition, and I can see this stylized cartoon for adolescents ("Da Bois Hoid Birthdaze Was DOWN Wid Diz!"). Or similar. When the target market is Befuddled Middle Aged Suburbian Housewife,you won't get far with Rembrandt.
Atm I am thinking of a new TShirt design, and I tried going for Ultra Cartoony,and at least in this rough I lack that knack. I remember seeing a tshirt from the late 70s that had some Robert Crumb-esque big nosed guy in a trenchcoat with the words sandwiching the image :"Do Unto Others,then SPLIT!". Squat,disreputable, cool,hip,amusing,amused,easily understood by the broadest demographics of potential customers, and I will try many times to get all these design elements incorporated into the Final Product.
The urge to create things isn't rare at all. Drawing is simply one of the more stereotypical "creative" activities one can undertake.
kinda ironic that the guy who did that meme drawing was a permabeg for decades despite trying hard everyday (I know because we're friends on facebook) and now he starting to transition to a music endeavor instead
source "trust me bro"
I knew the guy as well because I'm friends with her ex gf who talks a lot of shit about him. Here's his new art work btw.
Well damn looks like he's gotten a lot better, hard work does pay off.
yeah unless you're okay with this much progress in a decade
i send them some resources
like "hey have you read x book?" or "you should checkout this youtuber, he helped me figure out some stuff"
low begs normally have stayed in their bubble and haven't really studied
for higher begs i'll just tell them whats wrong with their iamge
"Even this sasukekfag could improve. I believe in you anon."
no.
By not being a turbohomosexual and giving out actual critique, save yourself the banter. We all deserve to make it in art.
"soul"