Imagine falling for the Leica meme
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Love it
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UH OH WHATS WRONG WITH THAT SENSOR :^)
Kodak fucked up whole series
This is what you get when you have business with americans
it gained soul
does this affect image quality at all or
yes
looks perfectly fine to me
Attack of the giant amoebas
>buying an m and putting this thing on it is the stupidest shit ive ever heard
Why? It saves you money over the Leica-branded version.
Imagine letting the purchasing habits of others rustle you hard enough to make a cope thread about it.
Lol. He bought a Leica.
How is it a meme? Only full frame rangefinders in the market. I like Pixii's design more but they're APS-C and don't offer the microlens arrays Leica does.
Seething fujislug
>I can’t speak for the Leica digishills because they can always chimp,
Not with the M10-D
the M10-D is the perfect digital camera. i will probably pick one up in 5 more years when the price drops by 20%.
and miss out on 5 years of using it
life is too short dude
it's a good thing owning expensive cameras isn't the only thing worth doing in life because that seems like it would be seriously lame
both retarded gearfags
Lol I forgot about the M10-D. What’s the point of that film advance winder or is it just a cheeky $500 thumb-rest?
Yes, its only purpose is to serve as a fancy thumb rest. Leica wanted it to be classy so they simply used a film advance lever.
sometimes i use the film advance lever on my film cameras to hook my thumb while i wrist strap carry them. i would probably use this in the same way. i don't really care.
didnt stop you from posting a cope comment in it
Imagine falling for yet another puerile troll
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Let's put it this way- I'm happy to have a Canon Ql17 and eventually upgrade to a Leica. I don't feel like I'm missing out. However, if I had a Leica and saw someone with the Canonet, even though it is 1/10th the price, I'd still be so jealous. Pic related.
leica viewfinder is way better tho
it's worth the money if you're shooting rf
I 100% agree that Leica's viewfinders are miles ahead of the Canonet, but the viewfinder on the canon is not exactly bad. I also like the film loading mechanism on the Leica which does a great job of reducing light leaks, but the QL17 has the namesake quickloading feature which is more practical. Overall, the Canonet is sleeker camera that is more normie friendly than the Leica and is not as absurdly expensive.
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nice side by side pic
i wonder why cheap rf suck since it's such a simple component; i would guess it was costlier to come up with quickloading etc than it would be to make the vf larger and brighter
anyways it's what it is there are no new cheap rf coming out sadly
How good this flash is? Never tried to shoot film with flash.
Goddamn that is aesthetic as fuck. I'd buy that just to display as an art piece
I brought a Canon AE-1 six years ago and haven't used it yet as a matter of fact I don't even know how to open the film case yet
The only rangefinder I want is the Zeiss Ikon ZM.
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Ew
retard
zeiss ikon do look basic af
like canvas shoes which are all black
Lmao why does this look like a bootleg of a real camera?
It has a similar layout to the Leitz Minolta CL and Leica M5
I wish I had pockets deep enough to fall for it
i love this lil nigga like you wouldnt believe
>no built-in meter
No thanks.
>he needs a meter
ngmi
you have working eyes right
why? it's nice fashion object
DDR nostalgia
>be poor
>make thread to celebrate it
Leica is the apple of cameras
Problems?
Yeah, get tested for alzheimers, granny.
>Based Russian optics on Nazi camera
Yes, Molotov
Leica had a train that transported israelites from camps to safer areas
Dangerously based, I remember that every time I shoot on my IIIc
same dude nothing but news and Nazis come to mind when i take photos
imagine being poor AND bitter
imagine being that poor like op
Now that Leica finally uses a good sensor in the m11, they're not a bad option, may as well just get the a7riv it's based off though
compared to other brands cameras of the similar price it's fucking dogshit
imagine me who fell for a soviet Leica camera
YOU DONT NEED LEICA CAMERA THAT COST MORE THAN AVERAGE SOVIET HOUSEWIFE
YOU DONT NEED IMPERIALIST JAP CANNON OR NIKON THAT SHOOT 13 FRAMES PER SECOND OF CAT ON AMERICAN LAZEEEE-BOY SOFA
YOU DONT NEED POLAROID CAMERA TO TAKE PICTURE FOR TUMBLING WEBSITE OF HIPSTER
BUY SOVIET RANGEFINDER CAM. A FINE LENINGRAD OR ZORKI MADE FROM BASTARD NAZI DESIGN AFTER SOVIET ARMY HUMILIATE THEM. BUY 5CM LENS. LEARN TO COMPOSE SUBJECT BEFOREHANDS. LEARN HOW SUBJECT INTERACT IN AND OUT OF FRAME.
SHOOT BLACK AND WHITE FILM. DONT SHOOT KODAK SLIDE FILM OUT-OF-DATE AND DEVELOP IN DRUGGIST PHOTOMACHINE. THAT MAKES YOU HIPSTER ASSHOLE WHO RELIES ON MISTAKES. MISTAKES GET YOU KILLED LIKE BASTARD NAZI ARMY WHO DECIDE TO FIGHT IN WINTER OF OUR GLORIOUS MOTHERLAND.
YOU DONT NEED KODAK CAMERA OF CAPITALIST MYSPACE RETARD GIRL. GO AND TAKE PICTURES LIKE GREAT SOVIET MAN
Ivan film is too expensive, even black and white is a luxury only available to frivolous youth if the burgeouise. The Soviet person already has device sufficient to capture a beautiful image and also acting as a device that tracks their behavior so it may be monitored by the party - their phone.
extremely based. Got myself this hunky piece of soviet glory for 40 dollars, takes pictures just like any other camera.
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BASED. I have one, did a full service on mine. They're easy to work on. The RF is adjustable behind the FED plate on the front, small flathead screwdriver
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Good job, Tovarisch. There is your coupon for 100g of sugar.
>Imagine falling for the Leica meme
Imagine falling for the Rolex meme
Imagine falling for the Ferrari meme
Imagine falling for the Learjet meme
etc...
If I had a spare $15K, I probably would buy a Monochrom just to see what it was like.
I fell for it a decade ago with an M4-P, but got tired of film (had tons of dif film cameras, did lab work for years, etc) and sold that back in 2015ish. Considered them as super "fun" cameras, but 100% not worth the money.
Came into a lot of money and rebought with a digital kit. Yeah, they're expensive as fuck, but if I lost everything (camera wise), it would be hard for me not to just get another Leica setup and leave it at that. I know lots of people with FF mirrorless setups that cost more in total. Granted, they have more bodies, lenses, functionality, and features, but I guess my priorities have changed. As a system it just "disappears" in use more-so than anything else I've used, and the IQ I can get with something so small is amazing.
The lenses are much harder for me to justify cost-wise. They're well made but honestly overrated optically. They're great, for sure, just not that much greater than everything else, and in most cases, absolutely not worth the cost. Only thing really interesting me anymore is the 35 f1.4 FLE, but that would be purely to have a fast 35 smaller than my Voigt f1.2 III, not for it's optical qualities. A 28 lux would be awesome, but not at that price.
The Monochrom's are dope. Incredible high ISO, and shadow recovery, but clip highlights pretty easily.
Going to a rally in about 8 hours if anyone wants samples at a certain FL.
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post more monochrom pics
it looks like film but better than 35mm
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Cat photos using $13000 worth of camera and lens. Nice!
For the money... eh... I'd get a GFX 100S and some nice lenses instead.
>For the money... eh... I'd get a GFX 100S and some nice lenses instead.
Why not both? I rarely post people / client photos here, but I know I've posted this before. M10-M left, GFX right.
>Cat photos using $13000 worth of camera and lens. Nice!
Yup, it's a fun camera to use, that's why I bought it. Also, you're about $3k over in price.
At least I'm not one of the nophotos on Wyato that shames people for being too rich, or too poor.
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rekt
monochrom looks better than gfx
shame that it would cost north of 120k brl (or about 25k usd) to get it a m10-m in brazil
even though i got that money that's a more than enough to spend a year living comfortably around here uhh
>monochrom looks better than gfx
The GFX looks better there but i think because the Leica shooter focused on the bush rather than the couple, also the Lei' got tons of vignetting.
If he stopped down and focused properly it would be probably even.
Nah focus was fine. Maybe a tad off, but I'll take it for f1.2 on a rangefinder. The lens does vignette a lot, but I like it. Definitely not apples to apples as the aperture is way different. Just thought it was a neat example for each system.
Best in class (FF) DR at higher ISO, best high ISO noise. You can use traditional B+W filters, and use it for trichromatic photography. The sharpness and detail definitely feels better than my 50R, even at low ISO, definitely reminds me of my Sigma DP3M (Foveon).
Real talk though, I was in the market for a new M right around the M11 announcement, and I figured I could get an M10-M now, and pick up an M11 next year, and the M10-M would still be totally usable alongside the M11.
Here's some more non-cats, with my tiny 35mm f2.5 PII that I've had for 10 years now.
Ugh, It'll take cat pics to dawn all this, please.
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thankyouverymuch
Which rally?
me too tbqhwy
not a fan of rangefinders but monochrome sensor is very very useful
I wouldn't. I would buy a nice supertele for a normal camera and spend every weekend walking through the woods taking wildlife photos. It's a stupid luxury brand for stupid rich people who don't have any goals or passion in life.
honestly I don't know if I'd ever buy a Leica. If I had a spare $15k for photography stuff I'd buy like a Nikon F6 or something and a giant $10k telephoto lens with image stabilization and all that crap. I already have dozens of rangefinders
>giant $10k telephoto lens
why
Monochrom's are nice. I might convert a Fuji to a mono.
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how to convert a camera to mono?
here is a link to give you an idea.
https://maxmax.com/maincamerapage/monochrome-cameras
Link provided
shit's expensive
i thought that it was bc composition was better on leica picture
on the gfx there's a vertical line running about 2/3 of frame, very unpleasant
plus detailed oof areas, also distracting
>vertical line running about 2/3 of frame
That's called a third and falls under the rules of it, homie
>plus detailed oof areas
Ah, you are a bokeh whore i see. Not related to the camera but the lens so your evaluation is flawed from the get go.
>That's called a third and falls under the rules of it, homie
lurk more
>lurk more
Shoot moar
Lmao rule of thirds is babbie tier
Is it? that would make the anon mentally ill or a shit-tasting pleb if he then dislikes seeing such a basic visual rule being applied mundanely in a test shot picture of a pregnant couple posing in a flowery forest while one of the subjects is wearing a dollar t-shirt
What are the changes Leica made to the M10-M to justify not having access to colour RAWs?
For looking at them pixels.
I prefer the m10 at 50k iso...
>grain is soul
removed color array filter
you technically get 3 time more resolution
>3 time more resolution
lol no. you only get more light with a monochrome sensor. Resolution is the same as a bayer/xtranny sensor.
Bayer arrays, organised so that you have pixels of red, green, a second green, and blue in 2x2 arrays. The de-mosaicing algorithm in the raw converter interpolates adjacent blocks to present you with 4 RGB values, but your actual RGB sensor resolution is really 1/4 of the overall number of megapixels for the sensor.
In the case of the monochrome sensors, each 2x2 array can actually produce 4 discrete monochrome pixels, with no need for de-mosaicing or interpolation.
So you have the potential for sharper images because there is no interpolation taking place.
oh, you are poor and seething. got it.
shooting Leica is super fun and the superior photography experience.
50% owned by Blackstone
company involved in deforestation of Amazon reinforest
Leicas are overrated get this one instead.
Had a black dial S2 for a few years, super regret selling it. Had a little crack in the window, but only $100 at the time (2010ish).
Got really good at shooting both eyes open thanks to the 100% viewfinder.
It solved one of my biggest annoyances with Leica too, that I could focus and shoot 1-handed.
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I would buy Zenit M just for the lulz, but I'm poor since February, 24th. I'm gonna keep on shooting my boring M10. Feels sad.
Tech art just released a new version of their af adapter for M mount
I kinda want one
Lol poorfags will do anything.
The pic has a Sony A1 which is $6500. Not too far off from Leicas, and I know the majority of homosexuals here didn't buy their Leicas new at MSRP
But you don’t have an A1 anon
Are techart same as megadap?
Poor A1 will have to autofocus very very slowly
Still faster than an M body can AF
>giving up all IQ for slow af
enjoy that
This was a gift from my dad, who was also a photog. Feels good man
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Cool
I got Zorki 4 from my grandparents. I would not want any other rf if not for its lack of rapid winding leaver >_>
Zorki 4 is one of the best rangefinders the USSR produced. Has a big fucking xboxhueg viewfinder and a nice contrasty RF.
They made a version with a rapid rewinding lever called the 4K if you find a dead one for parts you can just swap the lever over.
I find my zorki 4k to be pretty wonky, not a bad camera and the photos are good, but it just doesn't transpire solidity and quality. I just got myself on a Kiev/Contax, and it's on a whole other level, although it's 20 years older than the zorki. Have yet to see what it looks like on film.
I have a later Kiev. Great camera, if yours doesn't have it yet find a cheap Helios-103 53mm f1.8, one of the sharpest Soviet lenses ever made. They were sold with later model Kievs, mine is a 1978 model I did a full CLA and replaced all of the leatherette on.
The Jupiter lenses made for these Kievs are also much cheaper than their LTM counterparts.
Geroyam slava druzhe!
>replaced all of the leatherette
Poorly, by the looks of it. But you do need to start somewhere.
I got an earlier model, a 1954 Kiev III, as I read they're basically rebranded Contax, while the later models suffer a loss in quality in comparison. That Helios does look juicy though, might get one later.
And that is a sexy camera you got there!
Cлaвa Укpaїнi!
That Helios has trouble mounting on some of the older Kievs though I believe the III is safe. Great lens, thanks.
The later models did suffer from the dreadful Breznev 5 year plans but they can still be fixed up and most of the black ones have been serviced afterward since they were never offered as a black body from the factory. Fedka did service on them and sold a few serviced models as black bodies.
i've probably dank more piss than your dad. but that's a nice camera. i can't think of a better lens to pair with the m3
>Imagine being poor
I don't have an understanding at all, that's why I asked.
I'm actually on the brink of ordering an M11. I have the money, I have the job, I have the savings.. why not. The problem is that I cannot find any smaller form factor with that quality. I'd like to be able to carry around the camera every day If I want to. Any other suggestion to a better deal?
Real answer since I love shitting on Leica when I can. Great IQ at a tiny size, and great tactile experience of shooting, but they're really only worthwhile for specific type of shooting, and awful otherwise.
If you love shooting with an OVF, manually focusing, and using primes from 28mm to 75mm, they're great. Your eyesight will really determine how well you can focus at f1.4 or faster, but f2 is pretty easy with most focal lengths.
You can use them outside of that, but it's a lot less practical. At certain point you're better off using the optional EVF, at which point a standard mirrorless makes a lot more sense. If the OVF is the main draw, I honestly find my X-Pro3 better in that regard.
Leica service & repair sucks, equally expensive and can often take 4-6 months.
It sucks not having a tilting screen for low angle / hip shots.
It sucks not having autofocus for just getting quick snaps, and shooting one handed without having to rely on zone focusing (or focusing by moving).
The M11 fixed it, but having to remove the baseplate for memory card & battery was obnoxious af.
Cost-wise they're expensive as fuck for cameras, but honestly not that bad compared to many other hobbies / expenses. That said, I have friends with cycling setups that cost more, friends with more invested in all kinds of different hobbies. I'm fortunate to have a lot of money (now), but I still live frugally. I've driven the same car for 12 years, that I bought used (and 5 years old) for $7k cash, when most of my friends drive newer +$30k vehicles. I know several "uncle bobs" with multiple a7's and a complete kit of f2.8 zooms and f1.4 primes that costs more in total than my Leica setup. It really comes down to priorities, and even then they're still a bad option thinking in terms of performance per dollar. You're absolutely paying more, for less, but you might "like it" more. Most people wouldn't though.
As someone with a bessa r2 I agree with everything you said. I’m actually coming around to the idea of a leica q2. The 1.7 summicron with autofocus seems like it solves all the problems you mentioned. I’m thinking if the q3 has a 60mp it might be worth picking up if it’s still priced at 5k.
The only downside would be that eventually digishit gets outdated and you can’t take the lens off.
hahahahahaha
ok mr Rebel/kiss see you in hell
>newfags not recognising a classic pasta
>pasta
proof?
it's not, he's bullshitting
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"I'm the only one here qualified to own Leica. nobody else here is qualified to own Leica."
I'm not the guy you originally replied to. I just don't think you should be gatekeeping ownership of cameras. the only reason you'd care that someone buys a camera brand is if you're upset that they don't "deserve it" somehow, which is a bizarre way to think about how other people spend their money, which doesn't affect you at all. why do you even care? if he can afford it, let him buy it. it's not like your negative comment is going to inpsire him to become a better photographer, nor was that your goal.
you know nothing about me. I have two film leicas and I enjoy shooting them a lot. I don't own any digital leicas because I can't afford them. but I'm not so petty that I go around shitting on people who want to buy them. it's just a product, man, it doesn't matter who buys it or for what reason. they make plenty of them. him buying one isn't affecting you at all. so yeah I'm defending it because your criticism is stupid.
You should try not caring what people spend their money on, you'd probably be happier.
>gatekeeping cameras
You are a sad, thirst-driven shell of a human being. Fucking pathetic.
Some cameras are better art than most of the photobooks made with them. If buying them is conHispanicuous consumption, I can only imagine your take on buying prints.
>M11 black has an aluminium top
Now this is truly heinous.
Why does this camera exist?
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To be the best mirrorless to adapt M lenses
Also one of the best build.
>the best mirrorless to adapt M lenses
But M11 exists
ahhh the M11... the best camera in history, pity the phd price tag
The Leica SL2 is almost as expensive but gets mogged by literally every other flagship camera. M's don't really have competition so they can get away with being expensive, but the SL2 not only has tons of competition, it's also straight up worse.
Is there any possibility of something like Epson Rd-1 (manual shutter cocking, no backscreen) beeing made again? I don't know much about digital photography but the need to navigate on-screen menus to make camera work as I want it to and hand-holding autofocus (or assisted focus) really put me off this one time I had to use 2010-ish Sony Alpha.
I really would love to see more mirroless rf and any Nikon f4-like dslr (no screens, knobs and buttons only) on the market.
Inb4 I am not senile - late millenial/early zoomie if this matter. Just don't like em screens and touch-stuff.
shitting black and white film only. im torn between these two lenses, both of which have a crazy vintage look wide open:
1. leica summar 5cm f/2
pros:
>collapses right into my mouth. sortof a big deal, given how ill be packing this.
>10 aperture blades for nice smooth bokeh even when stopped down
cons:
>aperture only shuts down to f/12.5
>aperture is clickless
2. leica summarit 5cm f/1.5
pros:
>a little faster
>clicked aperture. pretty big deal to me because im retarded.
cons:
>does not collapse, and is actually kinda long. id have to figure out how to pack my camera sideways.
Honestly, clickless aperture would be a dealbreaker for me, so Summarit all the way
I use the 50 Nokton II as my compact 50, and would also recommend. Smaller than a lux, swirly bokeh if you want wide open, can get it single-coated for more flaring.
Pro-choice rally.
Pretty unlikely outside of an M11-D. Manual shutter cocking seems very unlikely. No screen is a niche market, but I actually love the implementation in the X-Pro3. The R-D1 just has an articulating screen that you can flip back, which a lot of cameras have, some with dials too (X-T4 for example).
>Nokton
the build quality of some of these voigtlander lenses is better than many of the older leica lenses. i don't know if the images have the "leica glow magic" going on or whatever but they are really nice to use.
>No screen is a niche market, but I actually love the implementation in the X-Pro3
same. it means the camera was able to replace my x-t2 for general purpose use.
Looking to ditch my a7ii and the x pro 3 is on my list
Yep, I was eyeing XPro3 for some time for this very reason but lack of "real" rangefinder and supposed lag using maual focusing (according to Chef of Gear and Sneed mr. Rockwell at least) made me a bit hesitant. Also couldn't really find use for it yet.
The only viable idea for screen-less camera that I can think of would be one that uses phone or ipad as its replacement - I could belive that it has been considered by some design teams at some point and decided against for obvious reasons.
Another a bit strange question - could one use Visoflex on digital Leica? (I know it is practically pointless with rear screen)
I have both and i prefer the summar. The aperture ring on my summar has a bit of resistance that makes it easier to line up to the correct aperture, so the clickless ring is not a big deal to me. Meanwhile the summarit is way softer wide open and is very uncomfortable to use with a smaller body like barnack leicas and CLs, i would only use it for the meme bokeh once in a while, while the summar is my go to B&W lens.
thanks for the reply. i went with the summarit 1.5 because i borrowed it from a shop and its just what that they had. i love the character and im actually really glad for the extra speed for the m9 monochrom. i don't like that it's big and stupid though as you say, and the e41 filter size means i don't have a fucking cap for it.
the bokeh wide open is unreal and the glow is incredible. i haven't tried shooting any modern leica glass in black and white, but the old ones ive tried are excellent. its nothing like shooting a modern fuji lens. im actually glad for the extra speed given the iso performance of the m9
What would be a budget camera to start photography? Underwater photography for that matter.. should I go with a gopro 9 ? Because I also want to film underwater and while spearfishing.
Appreciate the advice
get out
Leica M M240 with underwater housing
get the fuck out
I'm buying this... THANKYOU
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fucken nagger gtfo
ok got my m11
whats wrong with the captcha, this is the 8th time im trying to post this shit
noctiux 50mm 0.95
100% crop
purple fringe of 13k lens
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Pic or it didn't happen
Leica m6 or m7? Price is not an issue
M6 for classic, M7 for modern. I vote M4-P.
Yeah it's not a great experience to MF with AF lenses, but you can totally use MF lenses with it, and there are even some advantages over a traditional M, but it's a lot slower / less "effortless" than an M in practice. If you like OVF and don't mind using AF, it's an excellent alternative, and that's kind of how I treat mine now (gave up on using MF lenses with it), like an M with autofocus. For me, the OVF is the real draw, not just RF focusing.
>The only viable idea for screen-less camera that I can think of would be one that uses phone or ipad as its replacement
The M10-D at least works with the 2 most recent digital visoflex's, but kinda defeats the purpose. Sony put out some crazy lens cameras years ago that you'd attach to your phone, but they sold terribly.
>could one use Visoflex on digital Leica?
As far as I know the old visoflex's still work with new digtal M's.
I just grabbed a leather case that covers the LCD (and flips down like X-Pro3) for my M to get the M-D "experience". The only thing I need the menu for is formatting, changing lens registration for uncoded lenses, and initial setup of the "M" and Auto-ISO settings.
This camera was shit, but I wish they kept trying. Cameras are ded, but plenty of people still but phones. Why didn't Sony make a phone with a flippy screen yet?
>Leica m6 or m7? Price is not an issue
everyone wants an m6 but i honestly use aperture priority a lot so id probably want an m7. but ive never handled either camera... if the ss dial on the m6 is so nice to use maybe its not a big deal to move it while looking through the opportunity window
i wish they would make a monochrom m-d so that i can buy it in 10 years
does the m9 based monochrom have the same sensor corrosion issues as the m9?
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Quick question. I've always heard rangefinders had some advantages over slrs/dslrs for street photography - namely size, discreteness, etc.
But with the way modern mirrorless camera are developing are there still any advantages rangefinders offer over mirrorless?
An OVF with framelines lets you see things outside the frame, has no blackout when taking pictures, and will show everything in focus at all times.
Most everything else is better with a standard mirrorless for street, and there are downsides that rangefinders have that you don't have to deal with too.
X-Pro/X100 are the hybrids that kind of get you the best of both worlds.
>An OVF with framelines lets you see things outside the frame, has no blackout when taking pictures, and will show everything in focus at all times.
You can achieve the same thing with both eye open viewfinder shooting with an EVF or SLR OVF
Damn dude you're obsessed with your coworker. Pull his dick out your ass. Seems like he followed what he was passionate about; decided it wasn't for him and found another passion to try. While you're still here malding over him. At least he still tried, what have you done besides still be bitter months/a year later that he went for a camera he liked that you thought he didn't deserve? You're definitely bothered by the fact that he has a "precision instrument" just like you, and you don't think he earned it. He's got the same right to the instrument as you lmao. He probably gave his hobby a fairer shot at success than you and it's evident you're mad. You've got several Leicas and still a nophoto that's still parading a vaguely disguised failed gatekeep as something based on some pretend nobler point you claim we don't understand-- no, we see it clearly and we see what you're trying to cover up with but we're dismissing it as a thinly veiled and weak point. Unfortunately for you, his decision to buy a Leica is just as valid as yours. You seem to be stuck on this guy you've mentioned multiple times so it seems you might be his number one fan.
not him but i hate shiny metal architecture that shit seriously sucks
up an imaginary situation to justify his seethe
Many ppl fall for this trap regardless of camera brand i.e they purchase glass they never end up using
Seethe harder poorfag
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i've been watching ebay for a while now and i've decided that the 262 m-d is either rare as fuck or im entering the wrong search keywords here
i wonder if anyone has made a half case for the 240 which covers the rear lcd? ill never use a half case or any case because i think they destroy the ergonomics maybe ill just tape a pile of garbage to the back of the camrea that shoudl do it
Pretty much all of the M-D's are rare af now. Gotta be checking forums / fb groups often until one pops up.
I'm sure they have to be out there, but didn't see any with a quick search. That's the route I went with my M10 and it legit killed all desire for an M-D model. A lot less clunky than having to use my phone to change camera settings as needed.
i don't know why anyone would do this. they're selling it below its local market rate, probably because it looks stupid as hell. i would buy with the intention of restoring it to non-retarded.
how hard would it be to peel this shit off? does it need new vulcanite, or is the original vulcanite somewhere under the skin?
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>> i would buy with the intention of restoring it to non-retarded
LMAO
>dirt road photography
I resisted the Leica meme, but now I'm falling for the Hasselblad meme. X1DIII when?
no get out
Voigtlander or Zeiss? Or 7 Artisans?
Zeiss ZF = Voigtlander lenses for M-mount > Voigtlander for other mounts > 7Artisans/TittyArtisans > Zeiss Milvus & Otus series
Isn't Otus the flagship line for Zeiss? They are so sharp I'm surprised Zeiss didn't invent nanocontrast to describe them.
>Isn't Otus the flagship line for Zeiss?
They are and they have no more contrast than the ZF line, they are just way sharper. Not worth the money at all, it's for film shooters who don't want to post-process the scans as the lens produces all the tricks they want.
Imagine a Sigma Art with Zeiss rendition, sounds great but in reality the depth of field looks flat, the transitions are cut throat, the great corners make the image lack that center sweetspot, it's overcorrected: the lens line. Plus you can buy 4 or 5 top lenses with one Otus.
snoy 135mm f/1.8 is the sharpest lens for roughly <100MP FF (lp/mm doesn't convert to MP too well)
https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2019/03/sony-fe-135mm-f1-8-gm-early-mtf-results/
For theoretical/scientific purposes (estimated 100MP+ for FF), the smegma 135 is better
https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2019/10/more-ultra-high-resolution-mtf-experiments/
>lp/mm doesn't convert to MP too well
Weird, why not? Let's give the line 4 pixels to make room for bayer smudges and relevant mtfs will be like 240 px/mm or 50MP on smol format.
because im too lazy to do the math
Zeiss is good, but I prefer the Voigtlander alternative at most focal lengths.
50 f2 Planar, I'd rather have the smaller 50 f1.5 Nokton, or better 50 f2 APO.
I would take the new Ultron's (28 & 35) over Biogons.
35 f1.4 Distagon, even bigger than the 35 f1.2 III.
50 f1.5 Sonnar, definitely prefer the Nokton.
I have the TTArtisan 50 f1.4, excellent build, excellent optics for the price, but I never could get it perfectly calibrated with my M, and grabbed a smaller / lighter fast 50 instead.
can you send me this guys number I want to be a gay beekeeper
Are there any 7/titty artisan lenses that actually have an accurate focusing distance scale? Nightmare mode: hyperfocal scale also working.
>7 artisans > Leica
You drag leica on purpose because it's leica gearthread, Putler?
>People who actually put 7artisans glass on a Leica
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Is a Leica M3 still a good buy? I see a lot of people preferring the M4 for a film Leica, but I'm not clear on why.
question about the m240 specifically. I really enjoy shooting Fujifilm black and white jpegs and using shadows +2 or +4. is there an equivalence with the Leica system? or do I need to use the raw and increase shadows in post
it seems
1. the answer to this is no
2. the jpegs would be pretty damn flat so you would want the DNG
lame
Dude, I have fallen into Leica meme hard.
I am a semi pro photographer and I am thinking of quiting doing paid work since I am graduating from uni.
I am thinking of selling all my gear and getting a film and digital Leica. I prolly get the digital 1st so I learn how to use a rangefinder easier, since I have never used one. After that I can get a film Leica.
if you're okay with film and you want to play with a rangefinder just start with a canon p instead of a goddamn leica
I shoot film already.
I have a Minolta Hi-Matic f, I have never shot a roll on it tho.
looks like a really fun camera. i had a yashica electro and it took incredible photos for something that cost me $100 and seemingly weighed almost nothing
>I am a semi pro photographer
>I am graduating from uni
You have never heard of side hustling?
It's nice to afford to eat something else than ramen everyday.
im giving some serious considering into picking up an m9 with a replaced sensor
Me too. Everyone says that like every shot they take with the m9 looks amazing. Only full frame ccd sensor in existence. They’re like 2500-3k though. You can get a z7ii for that money.
>You can get a z7ii
sorry i stopped reading here can you repeat what you said with any of this thank you
>every shot they take with the m9 looks amazing. Only full frame ccd sensor in existence
its possible (as ive been reading via mr leica) that the main reason folks dig the jpegs from the ccd is because it has less dynamic range, and therefore more apparent contrast in the images. the fuji jpegs look incredible too, especially when you crank the shadows/hilights settings to obliterate all the tones in the middle... the solution to this if you had an m240 would probably be to shoot raw and crank the shadows in post. given the issues it has with blowing hightlights you would probably be shooting -2 under exposed raw anyway. i don't own a leica body this is just my figuring after a week of watching idiot youtube.
Lol dude let’s be real here Leicas are cameras for vacation snapshots for rich people. Anyway I still want one cause of that sensor and I mostly take pics of the senpai. The one thing that kind of makes me hesitant is that I have a toddler who runs around and it’s impossible to get her in focus on my bessa r2, that’s what the f6 is for.
Def not a camera for action shots.
It’s also not a camera for landscapes.
Maybe portraits? And “street photography” but that’s for losers with no friends lol.
Think about it how are you going to take any landscape photos with a filter while using a rangefinder when you can just see the result immediately in a mirrorless or through the lens of an slr. It’s just an unnecessary handicap.
>And “street photography” but that’s for losers with no friends lol.
don't insult me, ok. damn. FUCK. i mean, yea basically.
i travel a lot. i love shooting my bessa r3 and it's the experience that i want to replicate to digital.
Nothing wrong with Leica, the problem is the rangefinder meme. Still leagues above the fake rangefinder offerings from Fuji though.
Good enough for Leni, good enough for me!
I'm reading her memoirs at the moment. Before that I read the autobiography by Steven Bach. Very interesting women (Started using a Leica back in the 30's).
interesting.
interesteng.
interestingue.
sensor size is overrated af
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the relative size of the body is what interests me here
why? would you want fuji to make a tiny ass body thats gonna be hard to grip?
what a strange question
i am extremely tempted to pick up a monochrom type 246 as my first (only) digital m body.
i never shoot color film. i shoot older leica glass which looks like shit in color (don't argue, homosexual), and all of my personal work is in black and white. im just not interested in color. i just have a hard time justifying it in my head: paying like 1k extra to not be able to shoot color through any of my m mount lenses. the side-by-side photo comparisons between the monochrom and m240 bodies don't show any difference that i can see. but im still compelled by the black and white camera. like, bad ass man. cool. i need it?
option b would be to get an m-p240 or an m240. it would be more sensible, i guess. i could emulate a red filter in post as you have color data in the raw, but i don't really care about that. the camera is less interesting to me or something.
what should i do here? i need someone to tell me what i like and don't like at all times because i never had a dad growing up. thanks in advance.
Fuck Bayer
Does the regular m10 or m11 not allow you to shoot in black and white? Fucking hell man, think for yourself.
>Fucking hell man, think for yourself
no man i can't
Momochrom is cool but for less money you can get a very nice 100mp "medium format" Fuji setup which will take just as sharp B&W photos and also shoot very well in color too. Or a used Sigma Foveon camera for even less.
yeah or you could buy 3,000 tacos
same
picked up an m9 monochrom and walked 12 miles i think. this thing is great but i don't have a memory card reader so im assuming the pics are dentist tier like my mouth
>100mp "medium format" Fuji setup
>used Sigma Foveon
sounds like shit
suck my nuts
judging by the type of photos people make with these i think the camera actually makes your photography worse
I can’t speak for the Leica digishills because they can always chimp, but I think a lot of ppl are just mediocre with film rangefinders
Contax is better
ikr, colors arent good!
>bapes in your path
what the fuck is this screw? it's it to prevent you from attaching a thumb grip or a flash
It attaches the pressure plate to the body and makes sure that flashes are mounted properly.
pretty sure i can't mount a goddamn thing in here with the screw in the way
Have you tried?
yea but only with the thumb grip and flash i was using with my fuji cameras
It's there to prevent fujislugs from doing dumb fujislug shit.
Stop using gay accessories.
could so easily fall for it if I was rich. Even just as tactile toys they are satisfying
I always wanted a Leica, and when I finally was able to snag one, was pretty relieved to find out I super enjoy shooting with them. Better cameras than my Nikons? Of course not. The Nikons do better in low light, have autofocus, fast motordrive, zoom lenses and a million features. Great for work and working quickly. The Leica is for when I want to slow down, try to see differently. It's also small, if not the lightest kit, which does matter when packing for a trip. I can carry a 28/50/90 kit in a tiny shoulder bag. Granted, I could get all those focal lengths with one zoom lens and a mirrorless (and probably shave off a few grams too). But there's something to be said for Leicas. Finding one at a decent price is tough though it can be done. If I had to sell all my cameras and lenses and keep only one pair, it'd be the M10 and my 35 cron though.
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Currently hungering for a Light Lens Lab 50mm f/2 Elcan repro, those look pretty sweet... I lack a small 50 for the system, and it seems like a pretty good deal compared to the Summarit. I have the MS Optics 50mm f/1.0, which is way cool but has a lot of quirks, and never really gets sharp in the corners.
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That was a Ricoh 28 ltm lens, forgot to change the lens coding. This is from the MS Optics 50.
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Anon, would you say that those MS Optics lenses are worth their money?
You have to be into the specific thing they’re doing. They all have “character” that’s not exactly modern lens grade. If you want glass that has its own quirks and signature, then absolutely. But if you just want a sharp modern lens, a Voigtlander or TTartisan is going to be way cheaper. I will say I didn’t pay $2000+ or whatever they’re asking for that 50 f/1. I found mine as a BNIB eBay listing for like $1100 which was way easier to stomach.
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And this is from the 90 f/4 Minolta Rokkor that was made for the Leitz/Minolta CL. Awesome little cheap tele for the system.
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I gotta shoot with it more, it's so much fun. Also, my rangefinder coupling broke, so I took it to the Leica store for service (I bought it used, so I was expecting the worst), got it back after about 4 weeks in Germany, received the invoice... $0.00. What! Kinda won me over, I'm way more likely to buy a second body someday at this rate. Maybe they'll unfuck the M11 with a decent special edition or a better M12.
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Anyways that’s all for now thanks for coming to my TED talk.
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yey
Also he makes some of the very smallest m mount lenses available, like they’re almost body caps. 28mm, 24mm apoqualia I think they’re called. And maybe even a wider one too? That would be compelling to me. The 50s are all like vintage and quirky optical designs that you gotta be kind of a head to appreciate. I think it’s awesome that he’s out there hand crafting lenses. LLL is a similar project but that’s not a one man operation, and their lenses are absolutely devoted to replicating the look and feel of specific vintage glass, whereas Miyazaki-san puts his own uniqueness into each lens. Both ideas are appealing to me, so I’ll be happy to wield lenses from both of them.
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I recommend for you: olympus 35 sp. 1969-1972 rangefinder camera with spot metering, aperture or shutterspeed priority, 1.7 42 mm lens with soul, and a pretty nice viewfinder. I paid 200$
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i raise you the yashica electro 35 gl, a similar aperture priority camera which has a 40mm f/1.7 lens and meters to 1600 so that you can shoot at night. i bought mine for around a hundred bucks and then sacrificed it in a volcano
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M10 and a 35 cron, not sure how I exported these without EXIF.
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>M10 and a 35 cron, not sure how I exported these without EXIF.
i think Wyato removes all the exif data if it finds certain fields such as gps coordinates
>the rich white man lauding his leica wealth over the poor, fujifag Black
Sad state of affairs here on Wyatoroletariat.
>white man
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
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buying an m and putting this thing on it is the stupidest shit ive ever heard
On the one hand, if you plan to use it often, you're just better off with an SL2 or other mirrorless. Kinda defeats the purpose of M.
I just see it as an accessory that can add a bit more utility & shore up the weaknesses of the M system. If you mostly use an M normally, but want a bit better accuracy in framing and focus for 90mm or a 50mm f0.95, or as an alternative to an external OVF for wider lenses, I don't see the issue at all.
The cost for the Leica EVF models is pretty obscene though.
camera is hideous enough already
really glad i picked up the monochrom. its easily the most fun camera ive ever shot. it pairs nicely with older lenses like the summarit 1.5, the 1960s elmar 2.8. its how these lenses were meant to be shot.
black and white takes a lot of stupid questions away. color is far more complicated to compose with than many people realize. this is probably why a lot of amateur photos look like shit.
a photograph captures an absurd amount of complexity and it takes work to capture one that isn't just a random pile of garbage.
They can't be that bad
thats a film leica, digital ones are shit
Everything from the M10 on has been pretty good.
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it's just a panasonic in an ugly package
I'm not talking about the SL cameras, those are definitely a waste, obviously just get the cheaper Panasonic. I'm talking the M10(P/D/M/R) and M11.
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arent reds a bit dull and greens a bit blue here?
Yeah, ran it through a Capture One Kodak Gold 200 preset. Deliberately fucked with.
what to do with this shit
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Go wild
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i would delete it. boredom photos of the inside of my house are usually like this. i take them, look at them, and then delete them.
or this
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why haven't they made an m body with a rangefinder that has a minimum focusing distance less than 25cm? afaik voigtlander is making compact lenses that can focus much closer. what is the deal
Cant you just focus manually
probably too complicated for the rangefinder mechanism
it is annoying to no longer have a hard stop on some of my lenses at 0.7m
but worth it for close focusing
yeah you can zone focus / guesstimate or just use live view / evf attachment
>yeah you can zone focus / guesstimate
this becomes exceedingly difficult at shorter distances.
>just use live view / evf attachment
what
>this becomes exceedingly difficult at shorter distances.
for sure
>what
if you have a digital m, you can use the live view through the LCD, or if you have one of the attachable EVF's to confirm focus past 0.7m
no
yes
ok maybe
we had a leica, it sucked.
Lol at this thread
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>He overpaid for Zeiss glass
Kek
Boy I wonder which glass looks better
Gearfags and cellulose-peepers can't tell at f/8
Cope
Have this leica hipster guy on instagram posting halfnudes regularly and promotes nudes for his onlyfans.
Asks months earlier in his stories if he'll bring his leica or f3 to his trip...
Goes on his trip, has forgotten both cameras at home.
Has borrowed a om10 with broken parts from a local guy lol
post some of his halfnude work please
Imagine paying $10k and it freezes and becomes a brick.
https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/328694-m11-freezing-up-and-becoming-un-responsive/page/10/
hopefully this happens before leica stops supporting the model in 10 years
i love the leica m but i find it much easier to be quick and discreet with a fuji x-pro
Dude you don’t get it
Leica is not simply camera
This is the instrument of immortals
Copypasting my question from here
Board tourist here. YouTube recommended me this video about the Leica M11, whch has some sample photos:
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from 1:20 to 1:45
from 3:43 to 3:58
from 6:09 to 7:30 (or until 7:42 for his Lightroom presets)
Is that what you would consider a good "film look"? Or is the difference between this digital imitation and the real thing visible to you photographers?
Is it even a "film look" at all?
And can you get this look with raw + color grading on any other modern digital, or do you need something "analog-like" (for lack of a better word) like the Leica?
Sorry if it's a stupid question/premise. I don't know enough to ask the right questions, but you get what I mean.
>Is that what you would consider a good "film look"? Or is the difference between this digital imitation and the real thing visible to you photographers?
To me, the look and feel of film is about a lot more than the color grading. The silver in film renders light differently than digital, this is especially visible at high contrast edges and glows. Combined with older lenses and longer exposure times or more noticeable grain to achieve more light sensitive material, this creates more happy accidents that are hard to reporoduce in post.
But yes, you could find pictures shot on film that have a similar look to the picture you posted. Bruce Davidsons from the late 70s/early 80s came to mind first: deep dark areas, rather grainy, light glow on objects.
https://www.moma.org/collection/works/220275
https://www.moma.org/collection/works/220288
https://www.moma.org/collection/works/220270
Thank you very much for the in-depth answer.
It's definitely an array of rabbit holes to dive into, but with your post and the other Anon's in the other thread I have a slightly clearer picture of how it works.
>missing link to "film glow" example: https://www.moma.org/collection/works/53400
>Is it even a "film look" at all?
Due to countless films stocks with unique rendering formulas, variation in development, enlarging and printing, the film look can be a lot of different things. Pictures from the same era can look completely different:
https://www.moma.org/collection/works/48834
https://www.moma.org/collection/works/165391
https://www.moma.org/collection/works/130974
The modern film look isn't too concerned with how film looked, but with the extremes of how it looked. Film could be anything from neutral to expressive. White balance could be off to create an effect, getting your temperature wrong while developing could change stuff, putting enphasis on something while printing could change something else. The polaroid/instagram aesthetic, overexposed Portra 400 and Lomography seem to have pushed the idea of film look into the realm of wrong color=film color.
It's also worth noting that the colors of the world changed as well. I don't often find color shemes like this in my area anymore, everything man made got a lot more saturated: https://www.moma.org/collection/works/165373
>And can you get this look with raw + color grading on any other modern digital, or do you need something "analog-like" (for lack of a better word) like the Leica?
Different digital sensors render light and iso performance differently. I don't think that one kind of gear has to give you better results than something else. Sure, an early 2000 point and shoot will always be reminicent of what it is, but only because a camera manufracturer has an analoge history doens't mean that their digital cameras behave the same.
if you want a film look you can do that with any digital camera i think
The most striking things of the look there come from the high quality lens, not particularly some "film look" thing.
>The most striking things of the look there
What are those things exactly?
Accutance for example
super excited for these, was getting close to picking up the 35 ultron
hope it's basically a 35mm version of the 50 f1.5 nokton II
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pancake is where it's at for anything wider than 50mm
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focus throw of 450 this thing is a ninjas focusing distance wizard at f/8
also sharp and contrast as your nuts with no flare problems no hood necessary. very nice for creep bro
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I want to buy a cheap SLR on ebay to fuck around with, should I go for an old olympus, minolta, or leica?
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Leica is an exclusive club, prices are a pleb filter.
I have once again fallen for the Leica meme. If I could decide on what colour I want, I'd probably already own one.
anyone here have a D-Lux 7?
if so, thoughts?
>imagine not buying a Leica so you could take great pictures like Salgado
DISGRACEFUL!