This revision represents a quantum leap in their proprietary technology that defiescphysics and alters the path of light and shadow on a fundental level.
It looks pretty competently made for a local company and has a lot of detail if you crafted it out by hand without stock assets. Here are some of my suggestions; most are minor. >Your shading on the darker ends of the obelisks could use some extra darkening as they are seem to be lighter than their shadows. >The brick textures on the obelisks are misaligned near the corners which create a warped appearance. >Be sure to check if your design would work in a 1 color setting for letter heads, shirts, and on websites.
Ultimately if your customers happy with it (no matter how stupid their instructions are or how bad the final product looks) you did a good job. Most of the time they'll come back to you when they eventually need to fix it which of course is another job for you.
>just means getting paid.
For those looking to run a business, that's kind of the goal.
>Most of the time they'll come back to you when they eventually need to fix it which of course is another job for you.
But it's not; it's a continuation of the same job that a skilled, serious professional would have either convinced the client to finish properly, or would have walked away from to protect his reputation.
If the designer cucks out and does a lackluster job because he was told to it's just as likely that someone else will convince that client that it is shit and then the client will be pissed that the original artist didn't care enough or have the skill to convince them of that fact, and now they have to re- work it.
He not only wont rehire the original designer, he will let everyone know about how that designer sold him a crappy logo that needed to be re- made.
Depends on the client. On the other side of the spectrum if a designer pushes the client to change their design in a way they do not like you also will lose a customer. If they are unsatisfied with your work, no matter how pretty you think it is they're likely to go with the next guy. It's easy for your competition to play the sympathetic game and bend to fit the customers needs making you seem like a self righteous snob.
If the client seeks for your advice, advise them. If they couldn't care less and are confidant in their request fulfill it. Better a happy customer and a poor product than a unsatisfied customer with your best product.
>“Don’t be distracted by criticism. Remember–the only taste of success some people get is to take a bite out of you.” — Zig Ziglar
Nobody said anything about "pretty"; this kind of graphic needs to be *effective* for its purpose and aesthetic values and trends and such are secondary.
It's usually the clueless client pushing "pretty" over more important factors, and if those factors are indeed important the problem of losing a customer is often moot since that customer won't exist after his pig headedness cause his business to cease to exist. Its dumb to cater to people like that at the expense of doing your best work, when that guy and his crappy logo go tits up it reflects on his support team and fair or not people will ask "who the hell told that guy that that was a good logo?" so they know who not to consult.
If your work is effective and well received, he likely will be happy in spite of any butthurt over being told that his ideas were bad, and appreciative that you weren't just a complacent yes man.
Only idiots seek out and value complacent yes men, and you can take that to the bank.
As for this-
>“Don’t be distracted by criticism. Remember–the only taste of success some people get is to take a bite out of you.”
You miss the point that it's just re- stating and confirming what was said-
Don’t be distracted by criticism coming from a client with stupid ideas and don't be distracted by fear of losing his business so that you harm your own.
It's very possible that the only taste of success he will get is to use what little credibility he might have after his business fails to blame you, even though you did exactly what he asked.
The path you suggest is like an automotive painter caving to customer demands that he not thoroughly prep the car or use the wrong paint or not worry about accurate masking. When the result looks like shit and peels off in sheets, it just makes the painter look incompetent and no self respecting craftsman would ever risk that just for one idiot customer's business, or say its a good practice because fixing it means "another job".
>Most of the time they'll come back to you when they eventually need to fix it which of course is another job for you.
But it's not; it's a continuation of the same job that a skilled, serious professional would have either convinced the client to finish properly, or would have walked away from to protect his reputation.
If the designer cucks out and does a lackluster job because he was told to it's just as likely that someone else will convince that client that it is shit and then the client will be pissed that the original artist didn't care enough or have the skill to convince them of that fact, and now they have to re- work it.
He not only wont rehire the original designer, he will let everyone know about how that designer sold him a crappy logo that needed to be re- made.
That's pretty bad.
Way too much detail, not memorable, not versatile across different mediums.
Part of your job is to tactfully educate the client who demands shit like that about what a good logo looks like.
Unless you don't care in that case fuck off.
bump
This a troll right? Why is this not posted in the other thread?
Why would it be a troll?
I wonder
This revision represents a quantum leap in their proprietary technology that defiescphysics and alters the path of light and shadow on a fundental level.
Akshually
Now post the favicon.
It looks like you’ve screenshotted a frame of a 3d animation intro video
looks like a law firm logo sat on a smiley face
Maybe look up the definition of parallel..
we alreadyt told you its bad
the instructions are dumb
This is an illustration, not a logo
shadows dont even point to the sun
this pic has three suns
It looks pretty competently made for a local company and has a lot of detail if you crafted it out by hand without stock assets. Here are some of my suggestions; most are minor.
>Your shading on the darker ends of the obelisks could use some extra darkening as they are seem to be lighter than their shadows.
>The brick textures on the obelisks are misaligned near the corners which create a warped appearance.
>Be sure to check if your design would work in a 1 color setting for letter heads, shirts, and on websites.
Ultimately if your customers happy with it (no matter how stupid their instructions are or how bad the final product looks) you did a good job. Most of the time they'll come back to you when they eventually need to fix it which of course is another job for you.
a happy customer doesnt make it a good job. just means getting paid.
>just means getting paid.
For those looking to run a business, that's kind of the goal.
Depends on the client. On the other side of the spectrum if a designer pushes the client to change their design in a way they do not like you also will lose a customer. If they are unsatisfied with your work, no matter how pretty you think it is they're likely to go with the next guy. It's easy for your competition to play the sympathetic game and bend to fit the customers needs making you seem like a self righteous snob.
If the client seeks for your advice, advise them. If they couldn't care less and are confidant in their request fulfill it. Better a happy customer and a poor product than a unsatisfied customer with your best product.
>“Don’t be distracted by criticism. Remember–the only taste of success some people get is to take a bite out of you.” — Zig Ziglar
Nobody said anything about "pretty"; this kind of graphic needs to be *effective* for its purpose and aesthetic values and trends and such are secondary.
It's usually the clueless client pushing "pretty" over more important factors, and if those factors are indeed important the problem of losing a customer is often moot since that customer won't exist after his pig headedness cause his business to cease to exist. Its dumb to cater to people like that at the expense of doing your best work, when that guy and his crappy logo go tits up it reflects on his support team and fair or not people will ask "who the hell told that guy that that was a good logo?" so they know who not to consult.
If your work is effective and well received, he likely will be happy in spite of any butthurt over being told that his ideas were bad, and appreciative that you weren't just a complacent yes man.
Only idiots seek out and value complacent yes men, and you can take that to the bank.
As for this-
>“Don’t be distracted by criticism. Remember–the only taste of success some people get is to take a bite out of you.”
You miss the point that it's just re- stating and confirming what was said-
Don’t be distracted by criticism coming from a client with stupid ideas and don't be distracted by fear of losing his business so that you harm your own.
It's very possible that the only taste of success he will get is to use what little credibility he might have after his business fails to blame you, even though you did exactly what he asked.
The path you suggest is like an automotive painter caving to customer demands that he not thoroughly prep the car or use the wrong paint or not worry about accurate masking. When the result looks like shit and peels off in sheets, it just makes the painter look incompetent and no self respecting craftsman would ever risk that just for one idiot customer's business, or say its a good practice because fixing it means "another job".
>Most of the time they'll come back to you when they eventually need to fix it which of course is another job for you.
But it's not; it's a continuation of the same job that a skilled, serious professional would have either convinced the client to finish properly, or would have walked away from to protect his reputation.
If the designer cucks out and does a lackluster job because he was told to it's just as likely that someone else will convince that client that it is shit and then the client will be pissed that the original artist didn't care enough or have the skill to convince them of that fact, and now they have to re- work it.
He not only wont rehire the original designer, he will let everyone know about how that designer sold him a crappy logo that needed to be re- made.
That's pretty bad.
Way too much detail, not memorable, not versatile across different mediums.
Part of your job is to tactfully educate the client who demands shit like that about what a good logo looks like.
Unless you don't care in that case fuck off.
devil joystick beetle shooting for uranus
there is no art or love or design here op
you should just copy the escape album by Journey
ngl