>start to get interested in artsy erotic photography
>a massive amount of the shooting is just cheap-looking coomer material or essentially a gateway for the models to become camwhores
>do some research by checking the locations, the big studios in the city, and the social connections
>the average model who wants a cute shoot is 2 handshakes away from a literal hardcore pornography casting
wtf bros, how do I avoid this is my career? Looks like every moderately successful model or photographer knows someone who does porn, or knows someone who knows.
Does it even makes sense to try and isolate yourself from the types?
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Times are tough, and OF is more consistent work than the 55-year-old “fine art photography” coomers who usually try to rape models during shoots. You’re building walls in your head that nobody else cares about.
>55-year-old “fine art photography” coomers who usually try to rape models during shoots.
This is really the only problem
>artsy erotic photography
You mean porn with shadows
As opposed to 25-year-old “fine art photography” coomers who usually try to rape models during shoots.
>As opposed to 25-year-old “fine art photography” coomers who usually try to rape models during shoots.
I've only started photography recently, mostly events and street stuff but this is one of the things I see people say about photographers all over the net.
I never realized it was that huge of a problem.
It kinda makes me more self-aware when I shoot now because I don't wanna get lumped in with that stereotype.
>I never realized it was that huge of a problem.
Any given model you talk to has had experiences with a photographer being inappropriate during a shoot or being weird over text or outright assaulting them. It’s a universal problem
>It’s a universal problem
Women also tend to exaggerate, especially good looking ones likely to be believed
t. got called out for being inappropriate
nah all females are lying dogs!
>You mean porn with shadows
nailed it, its always shadows, severe lighting, and sandy/shiny skin textures
this coomer photog based near me has been banned from all the coffee shops for editing his "artsy nudes" in full view of customers
>You mean porn with shadows
This anon get's it
sounds like you could corner the market for soft core only photos
but as you say one thing leads to another
>erotic is 2 handshakes away from hardcore pornography
That's how it always has been :^)
artists have hired sex workers as models for centuries
You guys srsly can't try and think why someone doesn't want to deal with "sex workers"?
No, tell us.
"Sex worker" internet defence force, please go
So you don't know either.
Aids?
>deal with
With the way you talk, who’d want to deal with you?
nothing wrong with that!
all models need to be tamed because deep down they are just female dogs!
consider a change of hobby and/or occupation
maybe something involving heavy machinery
I prefer fucking models thank you very much
>fucking models
>not GF'ing them
git gud m80
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name your body count
a million-billion.
Clement
Lots of classic painter used nobels servants to pose or even a few wives.
there is nothing artistic about this. just admit you wanna make softcore porn because that's what it is
Yup. Erotic photography is so fucking cringe. It's coomer material that tries to be "above that" and high class because no bro, it's about the artistic ideals, and the concepts of beauty, and all that! Just shoot porn or move on.
naked =/= erotic
if you think that, you are a coomer
If majority of male population can coom to it, it's erotic. Almost all naked pictures of non-overweight women fit that category.
Do you by chance know a lot of israeli people running these businesses?
What difference does it make to your photos if they have done porn or not?
Better you get some whore to do it and know that whatever you do with her is a nice days job compared to what shes used to rather than taking a nice semi innocent girl and making her get naked for money
you boys have some wild ideas about women
If you think there is something off about my post its much more likely that it is you that have misinformed ideas of women
You're like an aspiring guitarist complaining that every other musician is doing drugs and one signature away from "selling out", that the managers are greedy fucks and that the only work you can get is playing shitty gigs in bars. Why the hell would any model good and/or famous enough to get "straight" nude modeling gigs ever fuck around with a literally who like you instead of someone with an actual body of work, their own studio and probably a degree? If you really want to make this your line of work then suck it up and take what jobs you can get building portfolios for camwhores while you learn how to take good nudez should the opportunity for you to break through present itself.
>literally
OP ask yourself why do the models do the shoots?
The absolute majority do it for money. They will follow the money. Your personal taste in art nudes clearly does not align with where the money is.
So you face a choice, sellout or be a niche photographer.
Also Onlyfans is an absolute unstoppable freight train that changed art nudes forever. The women is what really sells (not the photography) and now they can cut out the middle man and just self shoot and make big money.
The top girls are literally making millions on there and all the other girls see that and try to replicate it.
Also art nudes is a very tired genre, as mentioned a naked women with some arty shadows on her is incredibly generic and done a million times before and nobody cares. Also a women in some weird pose in a landscape in black and white is also really overdone and boring. And finally, any level of nudity that can be shown on instagram is beyond dead as 95 million photos are put on there for free everyday.
Im summary, you are trying to do something that almost nobody wants, this is the source of your problems.
Dont believe me look at this magazine which seems to be exactly what you want to do.
https://pmagazine.co/
Then look how unsuccesful it is on social media and how nobody cares. The standard of photography on that magazine is really high and so is the standard of the models.
Personally, I am hoping for a comeback soon in art nude photography as all the onlyfans stuff starts to look the same as its mainly a girl in her bedroom with some led lights or in her shower. Maybe sooner or later it will trend to hire a photographer and shoot something nicer and we will enter a new golden age of shooting nudes for photographers.
>look at this magazine which seems to be exactly what you want to do.
>https://pmagazine.co/
Like really? I don't see a connenction (other than nude woman) between the OP image and the images on the pmagazine.
Things happen outside of social media, Actually all of the best things do.
damn I wish I were rich enough to buy that mag it looks really nice
>https://pmagazine.co/
1 of the best years ago
>OP ask yourself why do the models do the shoots?
>The absolute majority do it for money. They will follow the money. Your personal taste in art nudes clearly does not align with where the money is.
>So you face a choice, sellout or be a niche photographer.
>Also Onlyfans is an absolute unstoppable freight train that changed art nudes forever. The women is what really sells (not the photography) and now they can cut out the middle man and just self shoot and make big money.
>The top girls are literally making millions on there and all the other girls see that and try to replicate it.
>Also art nudes is a very tired genre, as mentioned a naked women with some arty shadows on her is incredibly generic and done a million times before and nobody cares. Also a women in some weird pose in a landscape in black and white is also really overdone and boring. And finally, any level of nudity that can be shown on instagram is beyond dead as 95 million photos are put on there for free everyday.
>Im summary, you are trying to do something that almost nobody wants, this is the source of your problems.
>Dont believe me look at this magazine which seems to be exactly what you want to do.
>https://pmagazine.co/
>Then look how unsuccesful it is on social media and how nobody cares. The standard of photography on that magazine is really high and so is the standard of the models.
>Personally, I am hoping for a comeback soon in art nude photography as all the onlyfans stuff starts to look the same as its mainly a girl in her bedroom with some led lights or in her shower. Maybe sooner or later it will trend to hire a photographer and shoot something nicer and we will enter a new golden age of shooting nudes for photographers.
>The top girls are literally making millions on there and all the other girls see that and try to replicate it.
Yeah but most girls can’t make any money doing it. The problem with only fans is only the best make millions and everyone else fights over scraps.
While the internet means everyone who wants to can buy photos of belle delphine not everyone who wants to photograph her can. Even if she posed for random photographers and charged an affordable rate she couldn’t possibly come close to satisfying the demand because there are only so many hours in a day. She can’t model for all photographers at once.
This is where local models can compete with belle Delphine, although they will always lose out on their only fans they can pose for photographers that cant get belle Delphine and make their money that way.
If the model isn't great you won't sell no matter how you photograph her. OF coomers get attached to the female, that's basically your market.
>The women is what really sells (not the photography) and now they can cut out the middle man and just self shoot and make big money.
except only 1% of them make any money
>Then look how unsuccesful it is on social media and how nobody cares
so you think that because they don't have a 500k dopamine fried zoomers scrolling past their posts on IG that they don't sell their $1100 books?
https://www.similarweb.com/website/pmagazine.co/#ranking
>59.5k visitors in April
>average 2 minutes per visit
>82days of surf-time on their website
I'm betting they do better than most IG and OF hoes and their models don't have the stigma of being an internet porn whore.
>they don't have a 500k dopamine fried zoomers scrolling past their posts on IG
toplel
>As opposed to 25-year-old “fine art photography” coomers who usually try to rape models during shoots.
why would you care if it pays? Sell time, make money, live your life.
Or are you the saviour of civilization?
>The industry is so corrupted
Which industry isn't? Capitalism HO!
t. communist who ignores every commissar in socialist factories steals and resells in black market
>wtf bros, how do I avoid this is my career?
Long lenses, keep your distance and use telephotos to create a unique look. Think a well-done naked lady portrait done with a 500mm f/4
Be sure to learn how to Photoshop out window frames beforehand.
lmao
lel
I’m going to just post some input for the thread. If you want to take some art nudes then start meeting more girls. The real problem with this thread and it’s fairly obvious on this entire board is that most posters here really aren’t that social. Their views on the world are almost from a spectator point of view and so their advice is tailored to a recluse. Women will do whatever you want if they like you.
>The real problem with this thread and it’s fairly obvious on this entire board is that most posters here really aren’t that social.
>Their views on the world are almost from a spectator point of view and so their advice is tailored to a recluse.
>Women will do whatever you want if they like you.
Pretty big on blanket statements.
Totally lacking in explanations or evidence.
He's right, incel.
People in general will do things for you if they like you. That's how people work.
>incel
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t. sex non-haver
Increases likelihood but everyone has limits. They also have a price
You will never have a women who cares for you
females are born sluts who need to be locked down
bitches need to be taught how to love and obey,
never forget that, homosexual!
the only smart anon in this thread!
You will always be alone
You will always be a beta onions trans cuck!
Rustled foreveralones
FOUND THE Sisraelite S()Y-TURDS
do the world a solid and just neck
I take back what I said. You’re a 14-year-old
Nothing more israeli than trying to make you give up on (white) women.
you’re 17 and never had a girlfriend
you're a boomer and only got 1 ex-wife who cucked you with BBC
YWNBAW
>females are born sluts who need to be locked down
>bitches need to be taught how to love and obey,
>never forget that, homosexual!
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that is not even what an incel would look like???
it's cool that you posted a rotoscoped animation of your face, but I don't know what that has to do with the thread
you're a fucking retard. i'm demonstrating how your precious incel face is in fact a israeli israelite, just like you!
>israeli israelite
that's redundant, anon
Maybe if you had israeli ancestry and a higher verbal IQ, you wouldn't post such ridiculous sentences.
Even when being subtle you betray your snake origins, although that other fella was indeed silly redundant
you can have these
you seem to have run out
eastern europium ?
Yeah that's what happens when you let israelites run your country.
>rotic photography
>>a massive amount of the shooting is just cheap-looking coomer material or essentially a gateway for the models to become camwhores
>>do some research by checking the locations, the big studios in the city, and the social connections
>>the average model who wants a cute shoot is 2 handshakes away from a literal hardcore pornography casting
>wtf bros, how do I avoid this is my career? Looks like every moderately successful model or photographer knows someone who does porn, or knows someone who knows.
>Does it even makes sense to try and isolate yourself from the types?
stop being a baby
Terry Richardson fucked up the world... everything now is porno-chic’...
>Terry Richardson fucked up the world... everything now is porno-chic’...
don't blame Uncle...hate the critics!
I blame the israelites because all of them are involved
I don't consider photos of nude women art
I like looking at them but man it's just a hot girl there's nothing artsy about it
>>a massive amount of the shooting is just cheap-looking coomer material or essentially a gateway for the models to become camwhores
ok so why don't you use your artistic ability to actually take photos that you personally enjoy and stand out from the rest?
Mass Clothing companies literally used porn stars for ads and you complain for erotic photo some of them are using sex workers...
https://sci-hub.se/https://doi.org/10.1386/ffc.1.2.203_1
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I remember the mindshift where people all of sudden started to dgaf to like/follow their favorite pornstars on facebook/social media publicly.
Lol they also used to hire them instore, I remember seeing the cashier of one in the early 2010's in a porn flick like a week after I saw her.
lel we need those times back
name of the model in the OP pic?
cara delevingne
OP how'd you get started with artsy erotic photography? Just messaging local models?
build a portfolio shooting clothed stuff for models’ own portfolios and gradually work into nude shoots with experienced models
Do you have an example of the clothed stuff? Is it in a studio or just outdoors?
Picrel from google. Studio or outdoors, it doesn’t matter, but you should shoot things that interest you and find your personal aesthetic in the meantime.
I just shoot street and (formerly) erotic. Didn't get to do much on the erotic side cause my ex was paranoid about those type of photos. Didn't make much sense cause she'd dress like a slut for concerts. Anyway that's my blog post. I'm thinking about getting a x100v.
ITT:
AMERICAN APPAREL
try flicker
What do you care?
Shoot your artistic nude or for the artistic nature of it. And if the girl turns into a pornstar, that's entirely her own choice
OP you seem very confused. Why do people do porn, escort work or make art nudes?
To make money...
You want to know something that will shock you. Alot of art nude models do escort work on the side under a totally different name. Escorts can easily make 6 figure income per year, art nude models barely make enough to survive. Art nude models are often travelling, have the look that will sell in adult work, have images of them nude, and need money. They pretty much fit perfectly into the adult industries.
I came across one of the art nude models I shot who acted all innocent pretending she was just studying for a degree on an escort site. Makes sense, why would she bother telling me a photographer she works on the side as an escort. She is just a young girl making the most possible money from her youth and beauty across multiple channels.
Also another art nude model I was planning to shoot actually went into hardcore porn instead of art nudes a few months before I was going to message her. So for the guys who had shot her in the few years she was an art nude model now had a hardcore porn star in their port. Probably half of them wouldnt know either unless they keep an eye on every hardcore porn scene.
In summary, their is no isolation. You are dealing with girls who get nude for money (they are less bound by the rules of society than most people). They also have massive financial incentives to move into adult work. At any point, any model you have shot could transition into adult work. It really doesn't matter. Unless they make it into the top 100 pornstars in the world, nobody will recognise the girl in your port is also a pornstar. (except maybe a few browsers of /s lol).
Also I find the girls who shoot art nudes nicer and more interesting to deal with than thots. The girl who does an art nude usually has some personality and interests in life outside shopping and instagram and her ego.
so all those 8/10 models who do nudes are actual sex workers? how does one find them to pay for sex. all the escorts on escort sites are like 3/10s compared to those models
https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/p/thread/4020622/#4020646
you ever think about taking thots to church with you?
>page44
http://www.amaste.com/amaste/etece/etece/ETECE03.pdf
>2005
the world was so much better back then
I honestly think this is a big issue.
However, I work with models and do somewhat saucy feeling work. I never do nude or erotic work but my work often looks or feels more erotic than it is. I'm also anti-porn.
From my perspective its about concentrating on your own work and just doing the work. Don't be mates with models, don't be over friendly, don't bullshit them and don't creep on them. Just tell them what you want to do and go out and do that. Fuck the whole industry. The industry doesn't really matter at all. You carve out your own way rather than relying on systems that already exist.
>Just tell them what you want to do and go out and do that. Fuck
FTFY
>Don't be mates with models, don't be over friendly, don't bullshit them and don't creep on them. Just tell them what you want to do and go out and do that.
but why not befriend them and date them?
That's not what your interaction is with them. It's getting a job done not not fishing for pussy.
just ask the model to the prom?
/
https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/p/thread/4024145/#4024145
k3k!
https://www.graftdigital.com/portfolio/pour_la_victoire-terry-richardson/
I have this feeling that OP is still young and idealistic. But as he grow older and bitter he too will join those "old men trying to bang the model after photoshoot" group.
>join those "old men trying to bang the model after photoshoot" group.
and what's wrong with that as long as it's after a shoot and everyone is consenting
That platonic ideal of beauty will never be achieved, just relax and do you best with what is at hand. If you're not enjoying your art, you're doing it wrong.
>He doesn't know that giantess fetish photography with macro lenses is about to take the world by storm
You heard it here first
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sweet ass op
>>do some research by checking the locations, the big studios in the city, and the social connections
>>the average model who wants a cute shoot is 2 handshakes away from a literal hardcore pornography casting
how do you know this, can you elaborate more
Been doing shoots in Toronto for about 6 years now. Usually the decent normal chicks get talked into do webcam pron or OF by a friend who keeps convincing them.
Seen a few chicks lose good jobs cause it got out they had an OF account.
Used to know this church girl who was charging $3 per close up spread shots on OF.
A lot of these girls are bi-polar or have some sort of issue. If you see them on instagram stories ranting and raving about dumb shit, best to avoid those types. They will invent some random shit and try to metoo you for clout. Same thing if I see them have stories and put down other photographers, can't trust that they won't flip out one day.
We had a few who was shooting OF/Amateur Pron and when photographers worked with another girl they had beef with, would try to get the photographer dragged in the middle of it to ruin their reputation.
Unless you want to deal with lies, twitter drama, and someone trying to throw you under the bus, avoid them.
>Unless you want to deal with lies, twitter drama, and someone trying to throw you under the bus, avoid them.
but none of that matters really. if you work under a pen name or as a company why would any of that matter. I rarely see the top OF models doing this, seems to be with subpar models who don't have much of a fanbase who care about doing drama to increase views
>talked into do webcam pron
>A lot of these girls are bi-polar or have some sort of issue
EVERYONE that does porn/sexwork/webcam has some sort of issue
like schizophrenia???
AFH:
What do you think of the Gonzo art/porn aesthetic of guys like Terry Richardson and Richard Kern?
CC:
I love Terry's work. It has a power and immediacy and connection that I think is about more than just being gonzo. Ditto Juergen Teller. I also like Terry's ability to transgress, and be rewarded by it. Shooting major ad campaigns and celebrities while publishing books by and about your penis is a lot more difficult than it looks, and anybody who can do it deserves credit. But I confess to getting quickly bored by one style of expression, in the case of these guys, the snapshot aesthetic. I wish I could do one thing over and over again, as it's much easier for the public to "get" what you're doing then, for good or ill. But I get too bored too fast, and as a result I like to experiment with all different sorts of modes. I rebel against familiar tools.
AFH:
Do you agree, as some people say, that this style is all about content and context? That "anyone in the studio for a Terry Richardson shoot could take a Terry Richardson photo"? Or is there more from a technical or aesthetic angle than often gets acknowledged?
CC:
I think this kind of question opens a whole can of worms. In fact, many of Terry's shots are taken by his assistants, and other people on set. But I don't think this makes them any less "Terry's shots". It's his set, his ideas, his style of execution, the mood in the final edited photographs is in line with his "brand". So much of what makes a photographer's style is dependent on editing, and what that artist allows out in the world attached to his or her name. And there's a long history of photographer's assistants setting up lighting and cameras for their photographer, so I don't personally see this as a problem. Not to mention the long apprentice tradition in painting, dating back to the old masters. But even in modern times, taken to its extreme, you have whole factory production lines set up with anonymous workers, churning out branded images under artistic supervision. Warhol, Kostabi, Hirst, Koons. Are the resulting works any less theirs because they don't make them with their own hands? Photography especially is a machine-mediated art form, so we're already accustomed to the separation of artist from final work, this is just one more remove, but I think the provenance is still clear. In fact, it's that machine mediation I'm rebelling against with the Decay and Fugue State (splatter) pieces. I missed the direct connection I had to the final work when I was a painter, and wanted to reconnect with that.
AFH:
How does that rawer erotic sensibility apply to your highly polished style, which seems more in an Araki school?
CC:
I'll accept your comparison to Araki as a great compliment, even though I didn't discover his work early enough to count him as an influence. But when I did see his body of work, and how voraciously he jumps around, and experiments with different techniques, and how he's still managed to maintain a unifying mind through it, an outlook that comes through no matter how he's presenting it, I was very encouraged about my own work. I had previously always harbored fears that my curiosity and variety were weaknesses. Araki showed me otherwise. And it looks like I'm well on course to have as much trouble with skittish publishers and censors as he had.
AFH:
Such as?
CC:
I've had many projects cause me problems. A magazine that published a retrospective of my work was forced by their distributor to put black censor dots over a few pages that were considered too graphic for distribution. I had two pieces included in the first edition of the high-end art collectible "The Playground", and two different printers refused to print the pieces due to explicitness, so the publishers wound up having to print them all by hand for inclusion. And after all that, Barneys refused to stock it due to the pieces. Luckily, Colette in Paris was less prudish. WWD wrote about the whole controversy, which greatly helped sales. Although on the other hand, I also know that I've lost out on big commercial jobs because of the raw sexuality of a lot of my personal work, so that controversy definitely cuts both ways. I find it amazing, really, how much power and polarization images of the naked human form can inspire. Perhaps that's partly why I'm so obsessed with it.
AFH:
When and why did you begin burying prints?
CC:
I only began abusing, weathering, and burying prints in 2007, after the idea had been kicking around in in me since late 2005. At first it was just a cathartic reaction to what I had seen nature do to my family snapshots and belongings after Hurricane Katrina. So many of my childhood relics, and worse, my family's current belongings, were destroyed by the flooding, the rot, the mold. But in this destruction I kept finding myself fascinated by the grotesque beauty of it. Like a car accident, or the bodies of Pompeii. New Orleans is really a modern American Atlantis, after all. So this was just an attempt for me to bring under my own artistic control what had been an episode of complete chaos and destruction. Finding beauty in the shit. But as I started working with it I found other things about it to love. Like the fact that the resulting mold-ridden prints are very toxic. It's dangerous beauty, a siren call. Look too closely and it could kill you. Is the frame of the glass protecting the print, or the viewer? It appealed to my background in painting as well, as each piece is unique and unrepeatable, and that's something I find lovely. It also turns on its head the art-world emphasis on archival preservation. These images won't stop decaying once I seal them up. All things in life are transient, and more beautiful for it.
AFH:
How much control to you have over the end result?
CC:
It forces me, as a control freak, to surrender. It's very random, and closer to painting or even farming than photography. It's excruciatingly slow. Just as digital technology speeds up photographic creation to being nearly instantaneous, the time it takes for me make each piece in this series is measured in months. After I started working on these I discovered that Stephen Gill had been something very similar, for different reasons and with different aesthetic results, in his "Buried" series, which I think was 2006 so. And Bill Morrison was doing something similar, and stunning, with his film 'Decasia' in 2002, which I discovered only in 2006.
AFH:
How different is your relationship with the uncontrollable aspects in your Fugue State (India ink splatter) series.
CC:
I'm still exploring what they mean to me, but the kernel right now, the cloud that they are forming in my imagination, is that they are both aspects of violence and injury, and my attempt to co-opt that, to contain it in the frame. Whereas the Decay series feels like feminine violence to me, subtle, creeping, slow and fluid, the Fugue State (ink splatter) series is more masculine. Attack, instant lashing out, leaving indelible injury. A moment of fury, leaving a scar as a testament.
hit dislike https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cQJS5zzHwY
and then shitpost here
take it as a challenge OP.
People like the story of turning a whore into a housewife (pretty woman)
Turn a porn actress into fine art
>People like the story of turning a whore into a housewife (pretty woman)
>Turn a porn actress into fine art
couldn't agree more
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basically, jannies have their panties in a bunch over this https://archive.alice.al/p/thread/4040468/#4041402
post?
There's no such thing as artsy eros.
You're just a coomer in denial.
Remember this when you'll be taking pictures of underages in some forsake country for your "art" project.
u guise crack me up
sauce
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/169389016/#169389567 K3K
>erotic photog thread
>not a single coom worthy pic
Waste of space
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/168474959/#168474959
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/168477601/#168477601
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what the fuck man...i'm not ready for info like this
wow, you really don't see these for sale every day https://www.ebay.com/itm/165531285481
should fetch alot..
We know that most women getting into 'erotic photography' are whore, but what about straight/bi men? I've seen attractive guys I see on tiktok end up putting onlyfans links in their bios. Is it possible to convince an attractive normie guy to get nude in front of a camera? Pic rel is a book about a Patrick Bateman-esque woman who convinces normie men to do near-pornographic shoots because she's pretty
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sally sturges?
I would love to be the subject for something like this but I have no friends
Why care? Get them young and early in their career, make your shoots and don't be a cunt.
>have artistic nudes of ex
>show them to a friend privately
>"hey, these are pretty good"
>live in a woke metropolis where my rep as a photographer is fragile and vulnerable to attack
>can't post them anywhere because it's illegal to do so without consent in my country, as they are considered "revenge porn"
twf?
>as they are considered "revenge porn"
rightfully so
Would it count if the motivation for posting them wasn't revenge though?
Like if he put them up as an exhibit or something.
This is what I mean. I think I'd like to include them in a presentation of the body of my work, because I genuinely like them, but there's no way she'd ever sign off on it. I miss the old days when I could've done it regardless. They're not graphic, you can't see the vulva because of her bush, and the poses aren't sexualizing.
Serves you for living in a homo town
Jesus what a whining little bitch you are. Take new photos and respect people. And obviously younare even too pussy to ask her. You are truly oathetic. Old day... Like you know shit about the old days.
>respect people
I like how libtards would sell their souls to make golden showers lie about trump true and spread such pictures. But showing pictures taken with consent (I presume) is a no no because relationship ended. Reminds me of feminist "I can withdraw concent next day if I want to!" logic.
Are you a moron? That's a rethorical question. Btw. I'm not even from the us, but what ever. This is a quote from the post I was replying to: "there's no way she'd ever sign off on it. I miss the old days when I could've done it regardless." It is very obvious he doesn't have a permission to publish the photos. Should have gotten a permission so he could publish them. Didn't and now whines like bitch instead of just taking new photos of a model who doesn't mind him showing the photos.
>respect indignant cunts who will use any opportunity to get back at you, as if women aren't irrational dogs
I'm pathetic, right. Maybe stop worshiping pussy, .
You misunderstand. I have no respect for pussies like you. I respect people.
>photoGRAPHY
>pornoGRAPHY
woah... what did they mean by this
>adult people who want to be paid for their looks do jobs that pay them for their looks?
Outrageous!
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cfly3hYjw6t/
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.starer.ru/images/justin-timberlake/terry-richardson/*
Erotica is just tasteful pornography, pornography is just vulgar erotica.
They were always part of the same coin. They distanced, parted, joined and took inspiration from each other seemingly based only by what constituted taste in each epoch. Regardless of this, it's curious to observe that these tastes have not diverged much. Stick to your norms, and you'll be able to shoot fine erotica with porn models, possibly even influence some with your work from the dark path.
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>l pornography, pornography is just vulgar erotica.
>They were always part of the same coin. They distanced, parted, joined and took inspiration from each other seemingly based only by what constituted taste in each epoch. Regardless of this, it's curious to observe that these tastes have not diverged much. Stick to your norms, an
wtf????
https://rondraper.tumblr.com/post/128680188556/neutralisedecay-chloe-for-purple-2005
>interested in art
>wants to make money
You don't. This is what makes the money, as you can see. The unfortunate reality of being an artist is that nobody wants a photograph, painting, song, whatever, of what you feel, it's about how it makes them feel. The general public looks at erotic imagery to masturbate, not to appreciate the human form or your choice of effects/lighting for the mood you envision. Most famous painters were failures until long after death.
My suggestion is to not make photography your main career unless you want to do a lot of weddings, senior photos, and porn. Do it for your own satisfaction.
>The unfortunate reality of being an artist is that nobody wants a photograph, painting, song, whatever, of what you feel, it's about how it makes them feel.
kind of but you need to brainwash them