These days most people can't even tell. Sometimes I fix my Trad work on PC because I fucked up somewhere, the lighting in my room looks like shit or I feel like saving up on materials by doing large flat areas digitally, I'd say you could do up to 40% in Photoshop before normies start noticing.
Just check the "watercolor" tag on large boorus, it's pretty much all digital.
Genuinely how can something like this even happen? Is it because digital has a billion tools one can use and Miura picked the worst ones? Seriously, I'm confused how switching from trad to digital can fuck up your skills this much.
>how can something like this even happen?
Old(er) artists have a hard time going from trad to digital.
It's like a grandma learning to use a smartphone for the first time, they aren't as good as a teen.
I'm trying to move from a life time of traditional to digital and it's hard as fuck.
Nothing looks right or feels right. I can make any colour or softness of colour IRL but picking for digital is incredibly frustrating.
I know it'll likely get better as I use it and learn but it's crazy how shit my digital comes out when my traditional is fine.
>Genuinely how can something like this even happen?
Trad takes care of a lot of stuff for you (such as textures). With digital you have to get every effect intentionally, that's why it shows that those old bastards didn't understand some aspects of why their art worked when they did it traditionally. Digital shows their knowledge blind spots. Toriyama and many others had the same problem, their digital work looks like shit by comparison.
I'm trying to move from a life time of traditional to digital and it's hard as fuck.
Nothing looks right or feels right. I can make any colour or softness of colour IRL but picking for digital is incredibly frustrating.
I know it'll likely get better as I use it and learn but it's crazy how shit my digital comes out when my traditional is fine.
>Genuinely how can something like this even happen?
Trad takes care of a lot of stuff for you (such as textures). With digital you have to get every effect intentionally, that's why it shows that those old bastards didn't understand some aspects of why their art worked when they did it traditionally. Digital shows their knowledge blind spots. Toriyama and many others had the same problem, their digital work looks like shit by comparison.
I know the topic is mostly on manga artists but I think the funniest person this transition had effect on was butch hartman
I wish I could find a better trad piece to compare that isn't recent but they're hard to find.
I think the issue is butch shades his work like its marker on paper without realizing that unlike paper the digital colours dont soak into the paper to create a natural blend. I do think butch declined as an artist in general though
The left is using like 3 hues, while in the right he went overboard in the rendering.
This happens because real materials do a lot of the heavy lifting for you, you just need to know where to put it. Not the case for digital. Because the tool works totally differently he had to change his approach to painting to an unfamiliar one and it didn't work out.
There are other authors who switched from coloring in trad to coloring in digital (namely Keisuke Itagaki) who arguably found a style that's stronger than what they had.
It's "better" because the linework is what does the heavy lifting on the traditional one. Tbf neither are all that great and the rendering technique itself is the same in both.
No I won't. Maybe I draw masterpieces, maybe I'm a nodrawfag, it doesn't matter, I can still tell when something is good or not. Don't need to be a great cook to know when the food taste good.
Kentaro simply didn't have enough mileage to color properly on digital.
That pic looks like he hired a midbeg from /ic/ to color the illustration, and the result is a polished turd.
He even shaded with black.
His real strength has always been in lines, it was clear he had spent a lot of time grinding that skill, and he was indeed very good at it.
Part of it is the learning curve of digital. Even if you're really good at drawing traditionally it's going to be weird switching to digital and you'll have to practice daily before you'll be anywhere near where you were with trad drawing. Doubly so for getting used to coloring digitally and then learning how to get really good at it.
From there it just won't ever be as nice as traditional but a lot of it is trad artists switching and then not wanting to grind like beginners again to get gud at it
>NO ONE HAS POSTED THE FUCKING GENIUSES THAT ARE DONE IN DIGITAL
INCREDIBLE TO SEE HOW THEY ONLY POST ABOUT CHARACTERS. IC NEEDS MORE SCENERY/ENVIRO, I MEAN HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A PAINTING LIKE THIS BEFORE THE 2010'S? CLIPFAGS WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND.
This is actually really good though. It's unlike a lot of cases when mangaka make the switch and their perceived decline is due to a combination of old age + not adapting to the different medium well.
Katsuya Terada is a good example of someone who's been doing both digital & trad for decades.
This is actually really good though. It's unlike a lot of cases when mangaka make the switch and their perceived decline is due to a combination of old age + not adapting to the different medium well.
Katsuya Terada is a good example of someone who's been doing both digital & trad for decades.
though i do want to say i do love the art besides that and want to know what else he is known for
Oh my fucking god. I'm going back to paper asap
Who drew this? Pantsu ripper?
Has hot wife, makes a living off art, mogs u in every aspect of life
Keep coping
>hot wife
come on pantsu... I know she's your wife and it's nice that you love her but let's not lie to ourselves
SHUT THE FUCK UP RIGHT NOW!
>Hot
She's obese and a literal whore
>Has hot wife
?
>make up and colored hair
>while fat
Literally lipstick on a pig.
In case Pantsu is reading it: tell her to shift to more lean protein. She definitely eats too much slop.
None of that will take her tattoos away.
>that's what he was ripping all along
>tiny balding ugly man
to have impact it must be someone attractive
PYW
lmfao
>PYW
mogged
These days most people can't even tell. Sometimes I fix my Trad work on PC because I fucked up somewhere, the lighting in my room looks like shit or I feel like saving up on materials by doing large flat areas digitally, I'd say you could do up to 40% in Photoshop before normies start noticing.
Just check the "watercolor" tag on large boorus, it's pretty much all digital.
digital can't watercolor, unless it's some kiddy book style or aunt hobbyist style
>saving up on materials by doing large flat areas digitally
what a cheap bastard lol
digital, not even once
>It's been 20 years
I'm getting old, I remember watching the anime in 2009 or 2010. Good times.
This is by Kentaro Miura.
Can anyone explain why left is so much better than right?
Genuinely how can something like this even happen? Is it because digital has a billion tools one can use and Miura picked the worst ones? Seriously, I'm confused how switching from trad to digital can fuck up your skills this much.
Digital is all about being perfect. Flaws are part of what makes art interesting.
digital is all about whatever you want it to be
I wonder what his unrendered drawings look like.
>how can something like this even happen?
Old(er) artists have a hard time going from trad to digital.
It's like a grandma learning to use a smartphone for the first time, they aren't as good as a teen.
I'm trying to move from a life time of traditional to digital and it's hard as fuck.
Nothing looks right or feels right. I can make any colour or softness of colour IRL but picking for digital is incredibly frustrating.
I know it'll likely get better as I use it and learn but it's crazy how shit my digital comes out when my traditional is fine.
>Genuinely how can something like this even happen?
Trad takes care of a lot of stuff for you (such as textures). With digital you have to get every effect intentionally, that's why it shows that those old bastards didn't understand some aspects of why their art worked when they did it traditionally. Digital shows their knowledge blind spots. Toriyama and many others had the same problem, their digital work looks like shit by comparison.
I know the topic is mostly on manga artists but I think the funniest person this transition had effect on was butch hartman
show us the stuff
I wish I could find a better trad piece to compare that isn't recent but they're hard to find.
I think the issue is butch shades his work like its marker on paper without realizing that unlike paper the digital colours dont soak into the paper to create a natural blend. I do think butch declined as an artist in general though
>showing one of his better digital drawings
Show one of his dogshit ones
Jesus.
because digital has high latency, parallax, jittery lines, crappy fps
geez really makes me think
The left is using like 3 hues, while in the right he went overboard in the rendering.
This happens because real materials do a lot of the heavy lifting for you, you just need to know where to put it. Not the case for digital. Because the tool works totally differently he had to change his approach to painting to an unfamiliar one and it didn't work out.
There are other authors who switched from coloring in trad to coloring in digital (namely Keisuke Itagaki) who arguably found a style that's stronger than what they had.
It's "better" because the linework is what does the heavy lifting on the traditional one. Tbf neither are all that great and the rendering technique itself is the same in both.
pyw
No I won't. Maybe I draw masterpieces, maybe I'm a nodrawfag, it doesn't matter, I can still tell when something is good or not. Don't need to be a great cook to know when the food taste good.
Maybe stop being a fanboy.
>I can still tell when something is good or not
you very clearly cannot
Kentaro simply didn't have enough mileage to color properly on digital.
That pic looks like he hired a midbeg from /ic/ to color the illustration, and the result is a polished turd.
He even shaded with black.
His real strength has always been in lines, it was clear he had spent a lot of time grinding that skill, and he was indeed very good at it.
Part of it is the learning curve of digital. Even if you're really good at drawing traditionally it's going to be weird switching to digital and you'll have to practice daily before you'll be anywhere near where you were with trad drawing. Doubly so for getting used to coloring digitally and then learning how to get really good at it.
From there it just won't ever be as nice as traditional but a lot of it is trad artists switching and then not wanting to grind like beginners again to get gud at it
Okubo has always been a shit artist, anon.
Even during the OG Soul Eater run his shit was nothing special.
trad is a crutch
How?
You’re kidding, right? How?
I agree tbh
right is better
That art style calls for digital
I like both
>NO ONE HAS POSTED THE FUCKING GENIUSES THAT ARE DONE IN DIGITAL
INCREDIBLE TO SEE HOW THEY ONLY POST ABOUT CHARACTERS. IC NEEDS MORE SCENERY/ENVIRO, I MEAN HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A PAINTING LIKE THIS BEFORE THE 2010'S? CLIPFAGS WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND.
which LORA is this?
slop
pyw
This is actually really good though. It's unlike a lot of cases when mangaka make the switch and their perceived decline is due to a combination of old age + not adapting to the different medium well.
Katsuya Terada is a good example of someone who's been doing both digital & trad for decades.
where is her other leg?
>Katsuya Terada
though i do want to say i do love the art besides that and want to know what else he is known for
what is his best work in your opinon?
I notice that most of these digital mangakas suck, but in traditional they are not very good either.
Fuck
He always drew goofy art like this, I don't see the problem here.